THE INTERVIEW
VIBES: Hey there, Mak. Or am I interviewing Makana?
Mak Nova: Both. [laughs] Makana and Mak Nova can occupy the same space.
VIBES: Has it always been about music?
Mak Nova: Believe it or not, there wasn’t a whole lot of music in my house because my mom has a rare condition called synesthesia; when one sense is activated, another unrelated sense is activated at the same time, so music was a trigger, and I was into rap so that wasn’t happening [laughs].
VIBES: Is there theater DNA in Mak Nova?
Mak Nova: 100%. I did a theater production with my band, The Kings, at the Santa Cruz Art League last year. It wasn’t publicized that well; it was called “We Are Gold.” It was essentially a story that was built around the current music we had. We had a stage designer and sound technician; I recorded some original audio files we laid over the top like a narrator. And I was the central character in the show, the protagonist that went through a transformation. It was a journey. At the end of the production, I was in a different place than where we started artistically.
VIBES: So we know that Mak Nova is a created stage persona. Makana is sitting across from me right now. Does Makana have conversations with Mak?
Mak Nova: Definitely.
VIBES: How’s that going?
Mak Nova: [laughs] I love that question: ‘How does that go down?’ Makana is an introvert, highly private. I think Makana understands Mak and tries to stay out of her way when she’s doing her thing. Beyonce says that when she is on stage as Sasha Fierce she’s not responsible for anything Sasha does. [laughs] That’s also the goal for Mak Nova.
VIBES: How do you describe Mak Nova’s music right now?
Mak Nova: I’ve been playing around with Afro-hip hop.
VIBES: Interesting. Has that influence changed in the last year?
Mak Nova: The last year? How about the last few months? Yeah, that, too. It might have changed the previous two days even [laughs] I’m having fun. I want to feel good and for people to feel good when I perform. It’s evolving.
VIBES: What is the process of a Mak Nova song?
Mak Nova: I find a baseline I love that turns me on to speak. Then I see a drum pattern that kicks it off. And then I just go crazy.
VIBES: Let’s linger on the crazy for a minute.
Mak Nova: Well, there are some songs many artists talk about that are meant to be like, like it’s downloaded from the universe. Sometimes, I get those downloads. It’s a whole song, and I’m like, this is amazing. Other times, I am chipping away; I’m rewriting. I’m working with my writing partner. I write about 90%. And then he fills in for the rest. His name is MT, and that’s all I’m saying about that [laughs]
VIBES: You usually get it all laid down in one session?
Mak Nova: We try. I have some OCD tendencies and have pretty strong feelings about completion. It can be challenging because I also have some ADHD tendencies. So I’m like, this new thing over here is super exciting, right? So, I must have the discipline to stay on it.
VIBES: How about some inspiration? Do you do anything daily to find balance?
Mak Nova: For sure. I write every day. I find inspiration in nature. I’m more and more connected to indigenous ways of knowing. That daily writing leads me to places. Elements of that are even in my most recent single, “Walkabout,” about initiation. And, like, that’s a whole rabbit hole. But, like, I’ve had some powerful initiations in my life. And it’s just…. I don’t know how to tie that all together.
VIBES: Is it possible that Mak Nova is a manifestation to be a voice for a reckoning of who Makana Curtiss is?
Mak Nova: Definitely. I always felt that’s something I always knew wasn’t right. Even as a young girl, even in a small town, you get the trickle of what’s happening outside the broader society. But I think the craziest thing was spending so long not knowing how to articulate it or understand what was happening.
VIBES: Are you angered about the realities of the world we live in? Or are you a little angry also about being sheltered from it for so long?
Mak Nova: Interesting question. Yeah, I guess I’m a little angry. I was repressed for a long time. I didn’t understand why things were happening the way they were, why the world was the way it was. I was a young black child in a white town. I didn’t understand why things were happening to me, like in school and couldn’t fully articulate it. My mom’s white, so from a cultural standpoint, I kinda had to figure a lot of it out on my own. Long story short, It was a long journey to get to where I am, where I feel empowered and inspired. I know what it’s like when you can’t use your voice. I’ve made it to a place where I’ve found my voice, and I want to help other people get here so they also feel more freedom. So yes, I’m angry, but I recognize that I’ve had a beautiful journey. I’m enjoying it, feeling grateful for the path that I’m on, and appreciating the way it all happens. I’m just trying to trust it.